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Leaving Japan in  a week. Not coping so well with this fact. Not at all. It's not just Japan - after almost a year, I'm used to not  being a continent or two away from xparrot and gnine! And I know for a fact that the continent + ocean divide sucks, and makes it surprisingly hard to get together for watching and talking and general cuddles.

I'm dealing with my not coping by falling crazy in love with a Japanese drama/police series called Odoru Daisousasen, which I have a feeling will come up at greater length very soon. Because - yeah. It's love. stitcher2ficcer will probably have heard about it already, and - yes, it really is that good!

It's also the only thing I can focus on that doesn't make me go WAAH DON'T WANNA LEAVE, and so I've spent an inordinate amount of time on Japanese fan sites (have found a total of zero Western fandom for the show). Or trying to access Japanese fan sites. I'm getting the very, very strong impression that the Japanese are just a tiny bit more paranoid about protecting their privacy on-line than western fans, because... The lengths they go through to keep people away from their sites are quite amazing.

To date, I've had to: hunt hidden links (hidden behind words), hunt camouflaged links, open the source code to search for links, and scroll. A lot. I've also had to pass quizzes proving I'm really a fan to get usernames and passwords, or relevant parts of a URL. Like – take the two main characters birthdays and add the numbers. Or… what is the abbreviation of the third police organization beside Wagan and the Metropolitan Police. Random stuff like that. Which is all kinds of fun when you're trying to figure out what on earth it is they actually want, because – it's not phrased as simple as that. Oh, no. That would be too easy! No, they never use characters' names, instead choosing to use a combination of adjectives that only make sense if you're a fan. A Japanese fan. Um. At least I can recognize the kanji for the area between the eyebrows now? (眉間. And it does make sense that it comes up so often, yes.)

One site even had a question about the three major doujinshi events in Tokyo, and I fail, because I can only come up with Summer Comiket and Winter Comiket… is there a Super Comic City in Tokyo…?

Um. Yeah. This is me, ignoring reality, because I'm kind of not happy with reality right now. (Though it will be very very good to get back to my love - I haven't seen him since January 2!) And me ignoring reality is also me ignoring LJ, because I suck. Yes.

Reality isn't very happy with me either, and is making its displeasure known by flooding my tiny apartment with open boxes and mysterious piles of doujinshi and dishes where new forms of life are developing and an insane mess that has to be sorted into "throw away", "bring now", and "send home by ship". Ah~, I'm going to make the Japanese Post so rich soon. ^^;

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shayera From: shayera Date: September 7th, 2006 11:44 pm (UTC) (Link)
Wow. The paranoia of Japanese fans! I didn't know they went to such lengths! At least you know enough Japanese as well as enough fannishness to bypass it. Possibly they also want stupid gaijin to stay away?
ex_naye320 From: ex_naye320 Date: September 8th, 2006 03:41 am (UTC) (Link)
After I get you into Odoru I'll pass you a few links, because there are really awesome fanworks out there. ♥

Well. I can figure out the obvious stuff, but there were also sites I couldn't access at all. Like the one with the three Tokyo doujinshi events, and a few others. (What's a site's "CP"? It's possible it had something to do with the URL or the title... was damn hard to tell.) It's kind of frustrating... But, yeah. I'm getting the impression there's a serious uchi-soto going on in the Japanese fandom. (You could say it's just a privacy issue, but - the way it's set up, it totally is dividing people into in/out, where the fandom is a big uchi! ...it's so interesting. ^^;;)

If it had been FMA or a fandom like that, I would have said that the keeping gaijin out would probably have been a part of it, but... Odoru is kind of Japan-only. A lot of sites didn't even link the OFP, though most did have some kind of disclaimer. I guess it might not matter to fanartists, especially if they're already familiar with the gaijin problem from other fandoms, or through other fanartists, but - no. The impression I got wasn't that it was to keep anyone who didn't know Japanese out, but it was rather specific about keeping anyone who wasn't a fan of the series out, and making everyone who wanted to enter read the rules properly.

Of course, I never do read the rules properly, but from what I can gather almost all the sites forbit entry to men and non-fans. In those terms, even! One artist had a really big font saying that anyone who knew her in real life was absolutely not allowed... They also have rules about bookmarking, aside from what we already knew about linking. Especially bookmarks that can be reached on-line, but many of them seemed quite adamant about no bookmarks at ALL to anything but the first page with the disclaimers and quizzes and hidden links.

I'm halfway between fascinated and insanely annoyed. 面倒くさい!
shayera From: shayera Date: September 8th, 2006 03:52 am (UTC) (Link)
Insane! The bookmarking stuff makes me go o_O, because who can control what I do on my own private computer? Especially if no one else is ever using it... paranoia abound.

But it's interesting with the uchi/soto thing, because there's hardly anything of the like in Western fandom (friends-locked posts at the most!).
ex_naye320 From: ex_naye320 Date: September 9th, 2006 04:47 am (UTC) (Link)
Yeah - no. I have no idea what's going on... At the same time, I can understand the general wish to keep control of your creations, even on somebody else's computer. And if you see a webpage as an extended personal space - like your apartment - it kind of makes sense that they all have a "玄関" where they stipulate a set of rules... I mean, inviting someone into your home, there are all these unwritten rules and set phrases and you can be pretty sure your guests will take of their shoes and not start throwing your best china around. I don't really know where I'm going with this anology, but - um. Maybe you get what I mean? Because I can understand the feeling, even if I don't think it's at all logical, and even if it goes contrary to the way most westerners think about websites.

Thing is... I've had webpages. And if there had been some way to make sure only my "uchi" could find it, I would probably have been very happy. ^^;;

And I wonder about the Western fandom... The thing with uchi/soto (and honne/tatemae, for example) is that the biggest difference I can see is that in Japan, it's acknowledged. Yes, we differentiate between "us" and "them". Yes, what we say or do is sometimes different from what we really think or really would like to do. But - you can't tell me we don't do the same in Sweden! And so - I'm sure Western fandom does have in/out. I just... need to eat something before theorizing. ^^;;
shayera From: shayera Date: September 9th, 2006 09:34 am (UTC) (Link)
Hmm... You're right, it does happen everywhere - the line between fans and non-fans is pretty sharp in our part of the world as well. But... that kind of behavior takes it to another level of setting up fences, don't you think?
xparrot From: xparrot Date: September 8th, 2006 05:29 am (UTC) (Link)


I think the Japanese have a fundamentally (and from the Western perspective completely insane) different understanding of the Internet...(raise your hand if you're surprised... ^^;) ...lemme know if you find anything more especially interesting? ^^

--in other news, I couldn't wait and got the scanlation for next monday's OP and omfg eeeeeeeeep!!!!!!11!! (and, Robin, you kick so very much ass...)
but the ending - eeeeeeeeeeeeep!!!!!!
ex_naye320 From: ex_naye320 Date: September 8th, 2006 10:35 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: *snuggles*

I want to say it has something to do with the more clearly defined line inside/outside in the Japanese mindset, which definitely seems to include something where the fandom is uchi, and the rest of the world is soto... But, yes, absolutely.

With interesting - cute art? Gorgeous art? Absolutely hysterical art? Or do you just want the massive search engine that can get you sites that contain everything, including Mashita x Muroi? (OW my brain hurts now.) Or just fics you can put through the Google translator and get the best translations EVER, almost rivaling "prolix". My favourite? "So the shelf."

...yeah, think about that for a moment. It's a random line. In a fic very much not about furniture.

Can you guess?

It's... "そうだな". Because tana = shelf, and. Uh. Yes. There's a reason we're not machine-translation fiction yet? XD

...I'm being all cranky about how next Jump is the last I'm going to be able to buy, so I'm not reading the scans and had no idea there was something with the ending, but. Um. There won't be a hiatus or anything now, will there? ^^;;
stitcher2ficcer From: stitcher2ficcer Date: September 9th, 2006 12:20 am (UTC) (Link)
Ohhhh. Sorry you're having so much trouble with leaving Japan and Xparrot and Gnine. Focus on being back together with the true love, why don't you. And at least Shayera will be there to share your pain.

***BIG HUGS***
ex_naye320 From: ex_naye320 Date: September 9th, 2006 04:40 am (UTC) (Link)
Honestly - yeah, it's tough. But at the same time, wouldn't it be worse if my reaction after this year was... relief, or something? Because I'm only this sad because this year has been so good, in every single way.

Also, it really is time to say goodbye now. Maybe not from Japan, but from the life I've had here. None of my close friends from the program are left - there's nothing in this building that still feels like home. So it's time to go, and then we'll see what the future brings.

Thank you. *glomps*
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