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Odacchi~~!! Genius! The awesome amazing the PLOT the metaplot, it's moving and changing and then there's all of the rest and waaaaaaaaaaaah why is he so brilliant?!?

erhune, if you're reading this, this is your cue to get your butt in gear and CATCH UP WITH THE MANGA. Because it's kind of. Um. Exploded in a whole new dimension. Again. ^___^

I'm late, I know. But I only just got caught up now, and I don't have anywhere else to squee, and this DEMANDS squee. And analysis, but that'll have to wait until I'm back from work!

A quick, non-spoilery thought - is it just me, or is this time of year kind of like sweeps? Except that this is Shounen Jump, and there's no sweeps season because every issue has the voting cards, but... This time of year, a couple of months before Jump Festa... That seems to be when the plot picks up pace and throws the audience a few of those bones we've been waiting for for so long. At least that's what it feels like after last year and this year. I have no clue at all about the years before that (2004 summer was big on the emotional stuff), and it could be completely random. But. Is it possible?

Shanks! SHANKS! Shanks, Shanks, Shanks! ♥ Shanks and his amazing aura, and he's from West Blue, and was on GOL D ROGER'S ship, not Whitebeard's, and got his scar from Blackbeard and ACE! Ace, Ace, Ace! Ace! ♥ At the wrong place, wrong time - don't hurt Ace. Or Blackbeard. I'm not too sure who's supposed not to hurt whom here, but if Shanks says it's bad, I believe him.


The party last chapter was THE CUTE, and the talk with Robin and Aokiji made me go incoherent, but THIS? With Whitebeard and Shanks and the meeting and Blackbeard and Ace and everything happening at once!!

Damn this having to go to work, I wanna squee and fangirl and discuss and read the chapters in Japanese. Anyone have them raw? Please send! I accidentally downloaded only scanlations, which is good for following what's going on, but not so good for making out details and nuances. Thanks! - Got 'em, thank you! ♥


14 have spoken ♥ :: Speak to me?
innueneko From: innueneko Date: November 11th, 2006 10:28 am (UTC) (Link)
This place: http://groups.msn.com/OnePieceMangav-2/onepiece434hqmq.msnw
usually posts the raws and then the trans, but the quality for the raws isn't that great, so I'm not sure if you can read what's there.

But yes. Awesome awesome chapter. ^__^
ex_naye320 From: ex_naye320 Date: November 11th, 2006 09:47 pm (UTC) (Link)
These past couple of chapters have had enough info to feed new discussions on the metaplot for YEARS! I just love, love, LOVE Oda's genius and how he KNOWS his story, how he's known from the start, and you can totally feel how thrilled he is to finally be sharing all of this with the readers!

I'm falling more and more in love with One Piece for every single chapter, which shouldn't be possible, but. Well. Genius. (It's so much fun that I'm actually working a bit as a librarian now, and getting all of the kids' librarians to buy One Piece, which has 34 volumes out in Swedish - share the love! Get a bunch of little Odas started, and let's see what they can do in ten years. ♥)
shayera From: shayera Date: November 11th, 2006 01:21 pm (UTC) (Link)
I know I know I know I know I know!!!!! OMGWTFBBQ Odacchi!!!

Seriously! It's the Plot. And Shanks. And that Talk. And the Awesomeness of those revelations - Gold Roger's ship? That adds so much to Shanks' character... And Buggy? With Gold Roger? Bwahaha!

And the part about how no one knows how he lost his arm, and he's being cryptical about it (「新しい時代」に懸けて来た) - it's so true that he planned on doing that to Luffy all along! He's a devious little bastard, our Shanks!

And Shanks and Mihawk had a legendary fight right before Shanks disappeared to East Blue. Shanks must have lost because Mihawk is known as the Best, but that sure puts meaning into the lines they exchange about fighting when Mihawk comes to tell Shanks about Luffy way back when...

And the scar - point being that Blackbeard was *that* good all those years ago (if Shanks was close to Mihawks level, and Blackbeard gave him that scar in a fair fight...), and he ought to be even better now... Well, we could guess that, I suppose. But I have a feeling Shanks's warning about calling back Ace is so that Shirohige can be at his strongest when Kurohige comes attacking. Meaning Ace might not be able to defeat him himself. Waah! Need next chapter. *ynk*
ex_naye320 From: ex_naye320 Date: November 11th, 2006 09:55 pm (UTC) (Link)
Damn the lack of MOS here - this calls for another of those two-hour sessions of obsessive analyzing!! There's so much new stuff, first with Garp and now this! The plottiness! It's overplotting me! I have no idea what's going on anymore except that it's the coolest thing EVER. I don't know how the man does it, and damn but I'd love to go worship at his feet next month... can you imagine the Q&A and reaction and... and... stupid Japan being stupidly far away, grr.

But, yes, Shanks! HAH! So glad to have had even one single crazy theory about OP confirmed, because with Odacchi... It's rare to predict stuff, even stuff that's been there all along. Mmm. Atarashii jidai ni kakete kita? Am fuzzy on the verb there - "connect"? But, yeah, he did it because he knew Luffy was that important. Oh, Shanks. ♥ (Shanks is powerful enough to knock people out with his aura!! I'm sorry; has Odacchi been checking out Kubo's stuff? XD)

But - Mihawk! And Shanks, and Shanks is still alive. Um. And him and Shirohige crossing swords splits the heavens. Almost literally. I kind of. Yeah. Shanks is pretty strong, I'd say! Um. Oops.

Well, yes, if Blackbeard did fight fair? Does it say he did? I haven't re-read it yet, I'm still just babbling for the sake of babbling because OMG11 I still can't believe what the man is doing!

And Ace! Ace!! ♥♥♥ Shouldn't fight Blackbeard now, nope, and speaking of that - d'you think Blackbeard had some reason for what he did?

shayera From: shayera Date: November 12th, 2006 08:36 am (UTC) (Link)
Oda is overwhelming us with plot! I know! It's an evil, um, plot! ^^; And yeah, at the Festa - you think they'll put of some of these pictures in original? o_O And waah. Odacchi!

I was going to translate it to something along the lines of "bet". "I bet it on a new era" or "Jag satsade på en ny era". But anyways - we were right! Because we discussed it, and it wouldn't make sense to have it be a coincidence, but if we hadn't actually sat down and thought about it? It was only visible from afar if you looked closely for it. We still don't know why and how Luffy was that important, but... If he's related to Gold Roger, Shanks would have known, don't you think?

Well, Zoro is still alive too. Mihawk doesn't seem to be killing people who impress him somehow. But Shirohige said that Mihawk's fight with Shanks was the stuff of legends, so I'd say Shanks was (is?) better than Zoro.

And the splitting heaven! o_O What are they thinking? I'm with the crew there, hoping they're not actually going to battle it out. I think that would be bad. (Coolness, though!)

Shanks comments that he didn't let his guard down (so he was fighting his hardest) when he got that scar, which technically doesn't say how Kurohige fought, but it implies that it was a fair fight. Shanks wasn't surprised or anything.

I think Kurohige had some kind of reason, absolutely. And it possibly had something to do with following one's dreams (dammit, why would the bad guy be sharing Luffy's philosophy!). We still don't know who he killed, or anything about the situation.

It's kind of sweet how Shirohige refers to all of his crew as his "sons". I wonder how old he is? He was Gold Rogers great rival back in those days, too. He seems to have the lifespan of a giant (or part giant, or lesser giant, or whatever he is).

More Ace in next chapter, plz? Or not, just give it to us now? Um.
ex_naye320 From: ex_naye320 Date: November 12th, 2006 09:44 am (UTC) (Link)
So much plot... Still not recovered! Read it again in Japanese - so much talk. ^^;;

As for Jump Festa - I don't think, I know. Shanks is still crazy popular, and his introduction scene is just so cool. I'm thinking good candidates for originals (since this is Oda, and he gets to put up a lot) are chibi Robin (maybe the scene where she's holding hands with Orbia?), Merry's farewell, and possibly the big Cobymeppo intro...

Bet! Aaah... He did it because he believes Luffy is the future, in other words. And it's true - before we talked about it like that, I just hadn't thought about it enough to reach the conclusion that Shanks would've had to do all that on purpose. And he's still doing it, whatever he's doing... Keeping Ace and Blackbeard from killing each other? Or trying to, at least.

I don't know how much Shanks would've known of what Roger knew... though if he knew something like that, it would help explain things. Maybe. Um... Shanks couldn't be a D, could he?

Random note: it was raining in Logue Town on the day of Roger's execution. It wasn't raining in the actual flashbacks to his death, but it's raining when Buggy and Shanks are arguing. Which we've seen before: rain not during, but after an event on the execution platform. Just sayin'!

Mihawk - Zoro's alive, but Zoro lost, and lost badly, and has the scars to show for it. Shirohige lost too, and he's still in a bad state from it. Shanks must've lost, but he seems to be in pretty good shape for someone who's challenged Mihawk seriously. SO. Yeah. It's possible that Shanks is (or at least was) a better swordsman than Zoro. O_O Whoa. And with no devil fruit powers! (It's strange how the very strongest fighters we've seen seem to be non-augmented...) But then he went and got scarred by Kurohige, which says... um. A LOT about Kurohige's strength.

I'm thinking Shirohige and Shanks are not fighting as much as... making a point? Or something. With them, who knows. ^^;;

Kurohige has a plan rather than a reason, I think. Or the plan is the reason he killed that guy. He's been planning (dreaming?) something for a long time, and I'm guessing whatever happened with the Shirohige nakama was that he got in the way. Or at least that's a nice and logical explanation, which means it's probably WAY off.

Shirohige is old - he even looks old, actually. He's old enough to refer to Shanks as a "boy", and not have it sound strange. I'm thinking the giant lifespan is definitely plausible. We still don't know anything about the weird half-giants, or whatever they are. Hmmm. But him and his crew - aww.

What else... oh, yeah! Randomly - did you notice the tattoo on Ace's back?! Odacchi changed it! Before even the anime and products had it different, since the 卍 has such negative connotations for everyone from non-Buddhi
sts cultures, but now even Odacchi's doing it as a plain crossed-bones pattern. It wasn't like that before in the manga, right? I'm not going crazy?
shayera From: shayera Date: November 12th, 2006 10:35 am (UTC) (Link)
Went and checked the tattoo thing! Yes, Oda changed it. Not only Ace's tattoo, though - Ace's tattoo is of Shirohige's flag, after all, and the flag also has the plain crossbones in this chapter. Back in volume 25, both flag and tattoo had the swastica. Maybe he wanted to change it for a more international appeal?

Shanks knows what he's doing, even if no one else does (except his crew, possibly)... He came to late to do anything about a confrontation between Ace and Kurohige, but that just because both the Marine and Shirohige himself have been hindering him.

If he was on Roger's crew, there's at least a chance that he was told Things, especially if he was one of the main members. And, um... he could be a D, technically. "Akagami" is not an actual name, so we don't know if he has any names beyond just "Shanks". But... yeah. Not impossible? This is Oda!

True about the rain. But in Luffy's case, the rain came because of the storm Dragon created to safe Luffy's life. Roger was executed, so... I don't know. You think Dragon was there? (I wouldn't be surprised - it was the kind of event everyone would want to attend!)

A plan, yes. Kurohige is obviously thinking, but we have no idea what he's thinking. Well, except that he apparently aims for a post as Shichibukai, and thinks that capturing Luffy would be a good way to go about it. Hmm...
From: erhune Date: November 11th, 2006 03:29 pm (UTC) (Link)

The anime just resumed the main story last week. But I missed today's episode (俺のバカ!その時、「NHKにようこうそ」を見ていたからね). Maaaaaaaah I can't wait for the raw. Last preview was sooooo...... kiaaaaaaaa! Hurry up, SaiyaMan ^_^

(By the way, I've catched up with the last NHK episodes... Still cannot figure if this series is pure genius or evil genius but... koweeeeeeeeeee! The most frightening part is: Yamazaki... me... Yamazaki... me...)
ex_naye320 From: ex_naye320 Date: November 11th, 2006 09:58 pm (UTC) (Link)
Good! It's about time! Butt; gear - check, right? Get thee to a Book-Off, or a download site or something, just catch up. You won't regret it.

Damn, I haven't had the time to watch NHK since... episode 13? The one that ends with them still alive and I've been downloading it but not watching, and now I'm really really curious.

Yeah, Yamazaki - you. You - Yamazaki. The thought has crossed my mind... Except, of course, the huge difference! You're not making a galge. XD
From: erhune Date: November 12th, 2006 04:35 am (UTC) (Link)
True. But it's one of my 3 big goals in Life. So...........
airairo From: airairo Date: November 11th, 2006 05:13 pm (UTC) (Link)
AUGH I need to catch up! I just skimmed over what you wrote (god help me, I cannot resist spoilers) and saw the word "Ace" and that means it is time to read. *_*
ex_naye320 From: ex_naye320 Date: November 11th, 2006 09:59 pm (UTC) (Link)
Yes, yes, do it! Right now is a fantastic moment to catch up, because the past half a dozen chapters have been one bombshell after the other in plot development and general coolness, and it's just so good. And also - Ace. XD
From: erhune Date: November 15th, 2006 05:26 pm (UTC) (Link)
erhune, if you're reading this, this is your cue to get your butt in gear and CATCH UP WITH THE MANGA. Because it's kind of. Um. Exploded in a whole new dimension. Again. ^___^

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ex_naye320 From: ex_naye320 Date: November 15th, 2006 05:33 pm (UTC) (Link)
IMPRESSIVE keyboard mashing! Does this mean you read it? XD
14 have spoken ♥ :: Speak to me?